Canon 5D Mark IV vs 5D Mark III (Photo Features)

Canon just announced it,
so I’m going to compare the Canon 5D Mark IV to the
four-year-old 5D Mark III. And I’m going to share
whether this is a solid update for photographers or hybrid shooters. I’ll touch on what’s new, what’s the same, what I wish they would
have put in the camera, who I recommend it to and who I don’t. If you’re more interested
in the video features, or you’re doing filmmaking
and video production be sure to check out my
other video comparing the two cameras, and
you can check that out in the description below here on YouTube. So, first up, the changes, or what’s new beyond the 5D Mark III to the Mark IV. There is now a 30.4 megapixel sensor versus the 22.3 one, in the Mark III, which is about 36% more pixels, so you’re going to get a
big jump in image quality. The native ISO goes to
32,000 versus 25,600, and you can shoot 7 frames per second versus the 6 frames per second. The Mark IV also has an
Intelligent Viewfinder 2.0, and the optical viewfinder has the same intelligent tracking
and recognition system that you get in the 1D X Mark II, which detects different
subjects, tracks them around, and automatically switches
the auto focus point, to optimize tracking. They’ve also updated the
metering system in the Mark IV, so use 150,000 pixels for metering, instead of the 63 zone dual-layer
metering, in the Mark III. You can now focus with all
61 auto focus points at f8 versus the Mark III where
you could only do it with one when you were using the 1.4x
and the 2x zoom extenders on your zoom lenses like telephoto stuff for wildlife photography. As for other auto focus features, there’s a new area selection
button for your auto focus right by the joystick, which
you can program to other functions if you want. And they also added a
large auto focus option for the different areas as well. The other big auto focus update
is dual pixel raw photos. In this mode, you double your file size, so it actually takes
two 30 megapixel photos. But it allows you to shift
the depth and focus point and bokeh a little bit,
in Canon’s own app. Hopefully Adobe and other
camera app editing programs will add this as well to things
like Lightroom and Photoshop. There’s also a digital lens optimizer, which only works when you’re
shooting straight to JPEG, but it helps with chromatic
aberration, diffraction, things like that, things
that happen in your lenses that you don’t really want. But you’re not really getting
that if you’re shooting raw. Canon also added flicker detection. When you’re using artificial lights that do flicker a little bit, it’ll time the shot that you’re taking for the maximum brightness
of those lights, so you won’t get flicker. And then another change
is the auto ISO mode can have set up different max. and mins. For aperture, shutter speed, and ISO. Moving on to the LCD screen, you’re getting 55% more pixels on there, and it’s a touchscreen, which allows you to
change settings and focus. In live view mode, you can
touch the screen to focus or even fire the shutter. If you’ve tried to use live
view to focus on the Mark III, you know it’s really slow
so this is a big improvement for taking photos in this mode. You can even do continuous
IA servo focusing in live view mode with it
tracking objects and faces as they move. The Mark IV also now,
supposedly, focuses at one less stop of light, at negative
three stops, underexposed. Some other features and
changes to the Mark IV are the upgrade to USB 3.0, so you’ll get faster file transfers when you’re doing tethered
shooting or offloading files, and you can get an 8.8
megapixel JPEG frame grab from a 4K video file
while you’re shooting. Although, you’re going to have to use a pretty high shutter speed so you don’t get that motion blur when you’re shooting at 24 or 30 frames per second. They’ve also built in GPS for tagging where photos were taken,
which is really helpful when you want that location
information to post to Instagram or have it inside
Lightroom or elsewhere. They’ve also added built-in WiFi and NFC to transfer your photos
phones, printers, FTP servers, things like that. And the last change I want
to touch on is that you can caption photos in-camera
for IPTC data used by photojournalists and press for image information,
rights, contact info, etc. Now let’s touch on what
is pretty much the same as the Mark III before I go into what I wish this camera would have been and who I recommend this camera to. So, what’ the same between
the Mark III and the Mark IV? Well, Canon is sticking
to the same compact flash and SD card slots that
you get on the Mark III, even though there are faster
versions of those cards and it is UDMA 7 and UHS 1
compatible for those cards. You have the same number
of focus points: 61, although the region got a little bigger and you still have 41
cross-type auto focus points. The camera body looks almost
identical from a distance as they’re pretty much
the same dimensions, the Mark IV just weighs
about 60 ounces less. It also uses the same LP-E6 batteries, so if you have a bunch of
those, they’ll still work. It does come with a newer
LP-E6N battery though. So, what do I with the 5D
Mark IV could have been? Now, what this could
have been, in my opinion, and these hopes are based on: four years between different versions, looking at what other
camera companies have done innovation-wise to change
what’s in their cameras, what Canon offers on other models, some of which are cheaper, so these thoughts are
based on all those things. Number one: there’s no CFast
2.0 slot, like the 1DX Mark II, which means you’re only
going to get three seconds of those burst photos, about 21, before it starts to slow down. It’s only 30.4 megapixels,
where the main competition has 36 on the Nikon D810, or 42 on the A7R II. There’s no eye auto focus,
there’s no electronic viewfinder to allow you to use some of those cool Dual Pixel auto focus features
that you can in live view through the viewfinder
instead of having to use the back of the screen. And then the back of
the screen doesn’t tilt, which limits the ability to, you know, get shots from above or from below and to use that touchscreen really well. You also don’t have in-body
image stabilization, so you’re going to have to
rely on your lenses for that. And there’s no completely
silent shooting mode like you get on some mirrorless cameras for situations where you can
just have no sound at all. So, should you upgrade
to or buy this camera? I think if you’re
shooting photos currently on the 5D Mark III and are
committed to sticking with Canon, I’d say the Mark IV as your
main camera is a worthy upgrade if you can afford it. The additional megapixels, the
added features of being able to share and control via WiFi,
enhanced auto focus features, USB 3.0, the GPS, the Dual Pixel RAW mode, which hopefully you can use in other apps, great focusing control in live view and more make this a worthy
upgrade over the Mark III. But if you’re not fully
invested in Canon equipment, like lenses, flashes, other
camera bodies, batteries, you don’t need Canon
professional services, and you’re willing to risk
losing stuff on an SD card by not having a second one
at an event like a wedding, then I recommend the Sony a7R II and going full-fledged into the mirrorless E-mount system from Sony. If I was starting from
scratch, ear-wise right now, and I was buying my first
professional stills camera that also maybe did some video, the a7R II is what I would
get today, April 27th, 2016. I hope you enjoyed this detailed
comparison the 5D Mark IV and the 5D Mark III. I hope to get it in my hands
and try it a little bit and if you liked the format of this video where I compare cameras and
give my opinion a little bit like the video below,
subscribe to us here on YouTube and I will see you in another video. Cheers.

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22 thoughts on “Canon 5D Mark IV vs 5D Mark III (Photo Features)

  1. You mean August 🙂 That was a great overview. I'm on the fence about moving to Sony because of their support, or lack of it. I'll be waiting to see if the 6DII comes with any good surprises, at least a tilty screen.

  2. I own 5D III, and am a professional and waited for this product. I shoot photos and RAW video with ML. Canon could have risen to the challenge, but nope. There is no valid reason to buy this camera for video or photo professionals. None. Doesn't have the megapixels or sensor for photo, and video is light years behind in almost all areas. I am loyal to my customers and they want low light, noiseless, sharp, slow, stable, high dynamic range content shot from unbelievable angles. For video, they want HDR 4K 60P at minimum. I suspect (and hope) no one buys this camera and we stand together to call bull on Canon. Stop trying to make us carry multiple cameras to get the features that our customers are asking us for. In 2016, there is no valid reason for this other than to try to squeeze ours (and our customers) wallets. It makes me believe that Canon has no understanding of what the market expectations are in 2016 or where their competition already is. We will only get what we demand from those who we rely on to supply us. This misses the mark by a mile and should not even bare the name of 5D. Shame on you Canon.

  3. Guys, Canon is so useless!
    The only hope is MAGIC LANTERN to save 5D MK IV to make it FULL FRAME 4K and @ 500bit, that camera may be able to shoot 4K 14bit RAW. So, on behalf of every one who has been disappointed by CANON's stupid move (only God knows what the are trying to hide from us!) let us all urge the MAGIC LANTERN Crew to do work their Magic.
    Once again guys, let us all urge the MAGIC LANTERN Crew to do work their Magic on the Canon 5D MK IV (((0_0)))

  4. Damn, been holding out for something magic from Canon so I can use my existing lenses… looks like Sony might be getting my $$$

  5. Awesome video! Really insightful since I'm thinking about getting the MIII or MIV. Just a small note, it only got 60g lighter, not 60oz; that would truly be quite interesting! 🙂

  6. U want the 5d4 to become a sony mirrorless. With evf there is no mirror. You cant call 5d4 a dslr camera without optical viewfinder and a mirror

  7. Nice review and nice format…I am a Canon user and trying to decide if I should switch to Nikon rather then buy the New 5D Mark IV (I currently have the 5D3 and a 70D)….Main reason, because the 5D4 still has the AA filter, which I thought Canon would remove and is a little disappointing they didn't. Still I have an investment in Canon glass, flashes, etc and not sure I want to sell all my Canon gear.

    I am not sure how the D810 and 5D4 will stack up side by side…Nikon of course doesn't have the Optical Low Pass AA filter and in theory should produce sharper images…It's a tough decision so I'm watching as many reviews about the D810 as I can….If you have any thoughts, I would love to hear them as I am a full time wedding photographer. Thanks.


  8. I'm not finding that much advantage to the duel pixel RAW; the file sizes are double. To take advantage you shot still has to be extremely close to the mark, otherwise it's beyond the ability of this technology to save it.
    Also do you think it's worthwhile to shoot at ISO 50L instead of 100. I can't find any information about tradeoffs. I'm enjoying the Wi-Fi file transfer, as well as the phone app that controls the camera. And it seems the 1080p video is "nearly" as good as the 4K; considering the huge difference in file sizes, I think I'll stick with 1080p. The 30 megapixels seem like a nice sweet spot between huge file sizes and nice detail. Finally it's built like a tank. (Anyone want to buy a 7D?) 🙂

  9. Hi Caleb, many thanks for the comprehensive video. Absolutely fabulous on technical data. Brilliantly presented for a person like me. Thank you. Best of luck with the future clips.

  10. Hi Caleb, I am looking for a faster frame rate more suitable to take fast moving objects such as fighter jets and birds of prey, in Canon range of course. Can you help please?

  11. Great review! I may have missed it in the video but was there a significant difference with the dynamic range of the m4 vs m3?

  12. Thanks for the fair technical oriented review. I'm one of those traditional Canon lovers who think Sony is only good at Audio systems!

  13. I love my canon cameras, great service great product and very durable, and the best glass in the business-I can't wait to get my 5d4- my 5d3 is spectacular and the 5d4 is spectacular ++++

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